The star-studded Golden Globes audience may not have been laughing at host Jo Koy’s attempted zingers on Sunday, but Greta Gerwig isn’t too outraged. In a new interview with BBC Radio 4’s Today program, the Barbie director was asked about Koy’s joke comparing Oppenheimer to Barbie. Gerwig took it in stride and agreed with him, saying that he wasn’t wrong.She explained that Barbie, being a mass-produced doll with prominent breasts, is often seen as a blank canvas for projection.

Gerwig continued by discussing the insight of Barbie’s creator, Ruth Handler. She realized that children didn’t want to pretend to be mothers with baby dolls but rather wanted to pretend to be grown women. Gerwig sees the magic of her Barbie movie in infusing the long-running doll brand with modern ideas of feminism and patriarchy.
Margot Robbie, who stars in and produces the Barbie film, also shared her thoughts on the complexity of Barbie as an icon. She acknowledged that Barbie has been both ahead and behind her times but has always evolved. Robbie believes that the movie is the next evolution for the character.

Despite the success of Barbie at the box office and its award nominations, Gerwig’s next project will be adapting C.S. Lewis’ beloved fantasy book series, The Chronicles of Narnia, for Netflix. However, the Barbie phenomenon is far from over. The film won the Golden Globe’s new award for box office achievement and received several nominations for the SAG Awards. We’ll have to stay tuned to see how it fares at this year’s.

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